I haven't written in my blog for quite some time. Basically, there has been nothing especially original or stimulating going on in my D/s life, so there seemed to be no reason to put words to paper, so to speak. Actually, it's this lack of original thinking and stimulation that I'm going to blog about now.
I've recently celebrated my seventh year of marriage to my husband Karl. As my readers know, Karl is my first husband, and I'm his second wife, but since I'm his first "experience" with a dominant woman, we really can't count his first marriage as anything but an aberration. At least as things turned out, that is. Karl was a submissive-in-waiting when I culled him from the pack, and the past seven years have verified his basic submissive nature, leaving no doubt as to the correctness of his current station in life.
Said "current station" finds him happily married and happily controlled by me, as I'm sure he'd agree. Being an experienced and virtually lifelong Dominant has made it a joy for me to train my beloved as I see fit, and though there were certainly some rocky times along the way, the seven years have been very rewarding for both of us.
However, I must admit that being married to a submissive is a very different experience than I would have imagined. Certainly, the basic fact that we live together and spend huge amounts of time with each other has resulted in a much more intense and demanding situation than simply being a part-time Dom with a variety of submissives at my service. I welcomed the challenges and I feel justified in saying that I exceeded Karl's wildest fantasies and desires while finding personal fulfillment as his Dominant partner in this journey. A lovely symbiosis, as it should be.
So why am I feeling this "itch" that I'm feeling? No, it's not an itch to have an affair or to sexually cuckold Karl. I'm perfectly content with our vows of sexual fidelity. What I find myself missing is the special pleasure of starting with an inexperienced newbie submissive. Things are so under control with Karl that I no longer have to bother with the basics. He's beautifully trained, and I certainly do love it that way, but I can't help but miss that thrill of taking an inexperienced sub wannabe to places he has only imagined or never even thought of. It was always my specialty in times past, this working with a beginner, and I enjoyed it as much - or more - than the lucky man who got to learn things at my hand - or foot - or ass...well, you get the idea, I'm sure.
That "molding" of a man, that taking possession of his psyche, that thrilling moment when he first realizes that he is completely under your control....well, that's always been a huge turn-on for me, and though I'm certainly happily married and in control of my husband, it's just not possible to duplicate that feeling of "beginnings" with Karl.
Which brings me to the problem of what's to be done? Our marriage is based on monogamy, and I embrace that. Karl is a very jealous man, and I understand that. I can already hear him arguing that since I'd get sexually turned on by dealing with a beginner sub, such a thing would not be true to the concept of monogamy. I really couldn't mount a persuasive argument to counter that, although there would be no classic sexual contact, i.e. penetration, etc. So, what can I possibly do to scratch my itch that wouldn't disrupt our current life? Do it in secret? Hmm. I'm not anxious to get involved in that tangled web.
Interestingly, Karl - a man who has reached the very pinnacle of the corporate world - has often talked about missing the start-up days when a company is just an idea, and taking it all the way to the top. He wouldn't want to erase what he's accomplished, but he'd dearly love to re-live those heady days when it was all beginning. Is this a reasonable comparison?
I have no wish to subtract from anything we have, but I would love to add to my ability to experience those beginnings once again. Not with a man who could replace Karl as my husband and lover, but simply to take the blank tablet that a potential sub represents and write on that tablet - as a teacher, of sorts - until he learns what he really needs to be. Then - if the itch is still there - move on to the next one in order to keep getting the thrill that being the catalyst of a sub's lifestyle discovery engenders in me.
My friend Queen Goddesss, who writes the delightful blog called "I Am Her Maine Sub" deals with this problem by having an intensive yearly re-training of her husband. It's a good idea, and I also re-train at various intervals, but it's not really what I'm looking for. I feel the need to start anew with a potential sub or subs while still maintaining everything I have with Karl. Right now, I'm trying to figure out how. Any ideas?
P.S. Any resemblance to my problem and the old movie "The Seven Year Itch" is coincidental. I believe that movie dealt with a bored male spouse of seven years whose new neighbor turns out to be Marilyn Monroe. Hardly the same situation as the one I'm blogging about.
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LG,
ReplyDeleteIt is wonderful to see you post again and you picked such a great topic. I think we all struggle with this problem in both our vanilla lives as well as our FLR lives. We all need that anticipation of something new to keep us alive and going. I also feel that like any relationship you need to continue to grow and progress both as couples and individuals or become stagnant and bored.
With a submissive for a husband you have a blank slate to try all kinds of new things but as the years pass you learn what you enjoy and what you don’t. This brings you to the spot you are at now. As you mentioned one of the many ways I keep our relationship fresh is to limit some activities such as the retraining, punish box and cuckolding to leave something to look forward to. Sometimes the anticipation can be the best part of the ride, for both of you.
I agree with your analogy with Karl’s thoughts of building a business. It’s new and exciting and you don’t know where it will lead. I surmise that your training of newbies gave you the same excitement which you now lack. Perhaps you can share your knowledge with a newbie and a non sexual way or as a suggestion maybe work with a new domme or a couple just entering the FLR world.
I have worked with a few new dommes and one couple and thoroughly enjoyed watching them grow and having that moment when they get it. Hearing the excitement and questions that followed and remembering that exciting time was very rewarding for me.
One thing I have learned about itches. If you don’t scratch them they tend to itch even more
That's a tricky problem you have there, I'm afraid I have no ready answer for you, I wish I could help, but I enjoyed reading your post all the same.
ReplyDeleteWelcome back. I have really missed your posts and hope this signals you'll be a bit more active again.
ReplyDeleteHave you shared your feelings with Karl? I wonder if he might have some insights into how to enable you to feel fully satisfied without crossing any limits in your relationship.
On a related note, what happened to the majority do your posts, they seem to have disappeared? They, especially from the early days of your relationship, provide a great deal of context to this post.
-e
LG,
ReplyDeleteI get Karl is jealous, but what if you trained a female submissive instead of a male?
Takes the fear of you training another male away. Karl having to watch you train a female might be helpful for Karl to watch and not feel threatened.
I enjoy your blog.
QG - Thank you for your insightful comments. It's wonderful to share thoughts with another dominant female who understands first-hand what I'm talking about.
ReplyDeleteAs for mentoring, I know we've both done some of that via blogs (I'm sure you remember Marc and Cleo or M, etc.), but I haven't done any such thing in person except for many years ago when I helped some budding college friends discover the pleasures of dominating males.
However, that's not what I'm longing for. I miss the one-on-one joys of training a rookie sub, and as you say, that itch just keeps getting stronger and stronger. I'm not sure what will come of it, but time will tell, I'm sure.
RA - Nice to hear from you and I would have welcomed a suggestion. Maybe something will "hit you" and you'll share your thoughts. Take care.
FootSlave - I do hope to be more active, and no, I haven't yet talked to Karl about this I'm waiting until I have a more defined grasp on what I want to do, if indeed I actually get to that point. We'll see.
I decided to erase many of my earlier posts. After 4 years of writing this blog, it just felt like it was time to cull it a bit. Hopefully, anything new that I write will stand on its own.
Anon - No, I don't dominate or train submissive females. Never have, never will. It simply doesn't turn me on, and for me, domination is all about turning me on.
Mistress LG,
ReplyDeleteI would tend to second the recommendation of mentoring someone new to FLRs. From what I've read on the web, many wives/girlfriends are apprehensive about such relationships dues to all the information they've heard about it has come from mens' fantasies (e.g. full-leather outfits, whips, chains 24x7).
Being able to give advice as a woman in a committed and loving relationship should help these women immensely. Reading Mistress Kathy's blog at femdom101 has helped my girlfriend better understand what all's involved in such a relationship.
It doesn't need to be done via a blog where everyone else is anonymous. You would probably get the most out of an actual one-on-one mentoring relationship where you and your apprentice could share more intimate details without fear of public embarrassment.
Such a course would allow you to re-experience the early days of your relationship vicariously through your subject. Also, being that they would be in a relationship of their own, there would be less of a temptation to get emotionally involved with the sub. Also, depending upon how you see things going, Karl could be invited to help out as well.
Anon- Problem number one with mentoring is found in your use of the word "vicariously". I'm way beyond being interested in vicarious experiences in domination. As I answered to QG, I want the one-on-one experience that I so well remember, not something that is second-hand, as mentoring would need to be.
ReplyDeleteThe second big problem is just how does one go about finding some couple that wants to be mentored? I know that some Femdoms have actually started "schools' for such a thing, but that involves going public, something I have no desire to do. Short of that, one could cruise the "scene" clubs or D/s organizations and hope to connect that way. I've been part of that world, and I can't remember ever seeing a couple in that environment that wanted to be mentored. Quite the contrary, as any couples found there are usually well established and - too often - just showing off how "with it" they are. Not my style at all, as any public display of my lifestyle is not what Karl and I desire.
I'm not saying that I wouldn't enjoy mentoring a particular couple if one should somehow appear, but it's not my first choice for scratching this itch.
Thank you for your comment, and as I've often said, I'd appreciate it if anyone writing anonymously would sign at the end with a name or letter or number so that I can differentiate between one anon and another. Any continuing dialogue is much more understandable when one is aware of with whom one is dialogueing(if that's a word).
Lady Grey,
ReplyDeleteI am a sexually submissive 28 year old male who still clearly remembers reading your very first blog post. I don't recall exactly how I came upon it. I am a big fan of Mark Redmond's Worshiping Your Wife blog and I know at one time he had a link to your site, so maybe that was it. At that time you were just getting started and I can't begin to tell you how much you spoke to me and seemed to understand my yearnings, thoughts, desires, and in many ways you helped me to embrace who and what I am. I was just getting out of a 7 year relationship with my high school sweetheart. I will always love her, but I realized that I was no longer in love with her. A major reason for this is that she didn't understand my sexuality.
I remember eagerly anticipating your latest entries and wishing that I was Karl or someone as lucky as Karl to meet a wonderful dominant woman who knew what she wanted and helped teach me what I needed in this wonderful adventure that is life. You spoke to me so much so that I still check your blog at least once a week to see if there is a no post even though I have been fearful for months now that this blog would never have a new post.
You are a married woman and I have no business taking away from Karl's happiness, but one way in which I think you could get him to understand your situation and maybe even embrace it is to explain to him that you saved him from a vanilla world that he probably never truly felt comfortable in. I share that same understanding of not feeling like the women in my life have taken me to where I want to be or embraced me for the loving submissive man that I can only now dream about being. Obviously, Karl loves you and wants you to be happy, but maybe he would feel less jealous about you training a submissive if he could understand that you would be saving another man and helping prepare him for a lifestyle under the control of a wonderful demanding woman. The same gift you gave him you would be sharing with another, all while not taking away what you both currently share.
I hope that I have been of some help.
Humbly,
Paul Michael
Lady grey, wow you are an Inspiration. There are so many things with this that are emotionaly charged, i agree with Paul micheal, Karl is very fortunate to have a truly dominate woman that gets pleasure from dominating a man. For me, i submit to please her, for her pleasure and happyness and in no way would i ever want to put a Limit on pleaseing her. Bringing in another submissive is a very emotional event, very similar to cuckolding, the sub has to Deal with the fear of losing her, as well as jealousy, a constant struggle between his desire to be submissive to her and be humiliated by her, but... IT is all about pleaseing her, her pleasure, her will, Not the submissives. I feel Karl needs to truly submit to you and your desire, yes you need to really look AT how, so Karl knows you will always need him and love him. When my Queen cuckolded me, i found that the fear and jealousy was all i felt when i wasnt present, so she did IT in Front of me, then my desire for her to be pleased, and my humiliation won the emotional struggle. Karl ia very lucky man to have you, but He should Not put limits on your pleasure, He should place you clearly above him, Show his devotion through his submission to you...... Mark
DeleteLady Grey,
ReplyDeleteThank you very much for your post. I love the way you are able to recognize and describe your feelings. So honest, so accurate, and yes, so sensual. Really inspiring.
Honestly, I find very difficult to identify a way to satisfy your itch, while keeping your monogamy unaltered. I can only agree with the considerations shared by paulmichael2727, so well-written in his wonderful comment. Yes, sacrifices are tough, but once you have developed that itch, which actually seems absolutely natural in a dominant woman, Karl faces a beautiful opportunity. Wouldn't it be lovely if he made the effort and voluntary relaxed his monogamy expectations to please you?
Coming back to the original question, I have completely failed to find a proper answer. All I can find are ideas that might help Karl to deal with his jealously. For example, could perhaps involving a few submissives, instead of one, ironically reduce some pressure on Karl? Also, the target of becoming the best in the class could introduce some competitive approach, which together with the educational environment might eventually keep your intimacy with them a little bit lower. Actually, might Karl join the class at some point as well to back to basics and strengthen his foundations? Perhaps that could help as well, since he would have something more important to think about -not being beaten!- instead of focusing on his selfish jealously feelings.
Lady Grey, I really hope some idea preperly aswering your question will eventually show up for you.
Thanks again for the blog.
Paul Michael - It was gratifying to read your comment concerning my early blog entries and to know that you followed them so closely. Less gratifying is the fact that you are still evidently frustrated in your efforts to find a dominant woman who can share your wants and needs. I can only hope that you, and others like you, can eventually connect with the right person and lead a fulfilling life.
ReplyDeleteAs for your suggestion, which involves explaining the "itch" to Karl and suggesting that he take a rather altruistic approach to "saving another man", well, I seriously doubt that it would be in his power to accept such a thing on that basis. The only exception to Karl's "A level" existence is his submission to me, and I doubt he'd like the idea of a pretender to his position as my one and only sub. I do, however, thank you for your input.
trev - Thank you as well for your kind words. I can't really see that having multiple submissives would work any better than having just one newbie. What's more, I simply can't imagine my husband joining in a competition with a bunch of "rookies". I'm sure he'd resent having to compete for what is his well earned place as my sole submissive. After all the training he's gone through at my hands over a period of seven years, it just doesn't seem right to me to put him back in line with newcomers to the world of submission. Thank you for the idea, but for me it's a no-go.
I've nothing constructive to add. I want to say that I'm shocked and glad that you're back!
ReplyDeleteLady Gray,
ReplyDeletethank you for sharing your experiences, mindful insights,as well as interesting challenges you encounter, on your blog. They have been of great help to me and my partner in practicing FLR as a matter of advice, as well as inspiration.
I am writing to you with reference to a problem of finding a couple that wants to be mentored that you have mentioned before. Unfortunately, I do not believe this idea to be the final solution to your problem, especially concerning how important it is for you to keep your and Karl's privacy. The reason for my doubt lies in the way you describe the feeling that you are longing for. I believe that the thrill of a process of "molding of a man" and "taking possession of his psyche" (that you described and that I can relate to) has to include the realization of you as the one that molded and possessed. Mentoring simply cannot provide such. If I were in your position, I would ask myself questions like: do me and my partner have a common definition of fidelity in our relationship and if not, how can we achieve one. It might also be important for you to answer to yourself whether what excites you is mainly the context and a newbie that you can mold, or the newbie himself. I am aware how those thrills towards the context and the person are intertwined, but answering those questions might help explain your need to yourself and your partner. And most important - your partner obviously feels threatened by your sexual arousal in a situation that includes another man. Therefore, it might matter what is the main cause of your arousal. It also might matter if you could take his insecurities into account and find a way to make him feel safe and secure about all your thrills, including these. I was wondering would Karl agree if you occasionally had a session with one more slave with him present? Namely, having his insecurity (and jealousy)towards being your only partner in mind, would it help if you somehow provided a role for him in the context of you with a newbie? I am thinking he might feel less insecure knowing that his place in your fantasy is ensured and that you want to add up to your thrill, having him participate in that. Would you find that idea attractive?
Finally, I would greatly appreciate if you would be so kind to accept mentorship (via email) over a current phase of my and my partner's FLR. It would mean a great deal to us, especially me and my process of embracing FLR, and I believe you would come up with some ideas for your own process, concerning my partner is still pretty much a newbie. The email address that you can contact me is: marchandbeyond@gmail.com
Looking forward to hearing (and reading) you.
Lana- Thank you for your comments and I'm gratified to know that I was of some help in your FLR.
ReplyDeleteI've essentially rejected the idea of a mentorship. As I said in answer to other comments, I want the face to face, personal experience with a newbie sub once again, rather than the coaching aspects of a mentorship. I also have serious doubts that Karl would want anything to do with taking part in my scratching my itch, and I hesitate even bringing the subject up with him until I have a more firm view of the direction I need to take here.
As for mentoring you and your partner, no, I don't get involved with email situations anymore. Two previous ones have ended badly, and I don't wish to start another one. Sorry, but I wish you the best in your efforts to move forward in your own FLR.
Mark - I appreciate your comment, but I don't think that classic cuckolding is comparable to what I'm after with my desire to train a new sub. I am not contemplating intercourse with another man, and as far as I know cuckolding always involves intercourse. I know Femdoms who have made it work for them, but I've never had the desire to follow that path. I'm glad that you've been able to embrace your Mistress's desire, but as far as I'm concerned, this is a different matter.
ReplyDeleteCuckolding aside, I do take your point that a sub should do whatever his Mistress desires, but Karl and I made some rules at the beginning of our marriage, and it's the fidelity part of those rules that I'm struggling with.
It's good to see you posting again, Lady Grey. I hope you are doing well.
ReplyDeleteI believe the itch you are describing is very natural with the progression you and Karl have had over the years. Karl is a capable and intelligent sub which makes him a fast learner and able to adapt to the evolving state of the relationship. While this is a testament to the both of you, I can see how it might make you a bit restless. When he fills his role too well, the mystery, uncertainty, and need for a frequent dominant reaction fade away.
About the only thing I can think of from a monogamous standpoint would be to increase the intensity even more. I remember from Karl's slave weekend post that the both of you had experienced a new intensity level. That was years ago and I would guess that at least some of of those activities have bled over into present day, but I'm guessing that your day to day interactions do not sustain that level of intensity (please correct me if I am wrong).
Exploring that type of relationship on a more permanent basis would provide a chance to evolve the nature of your relationship to a more intense level. It would open up the chance to continue molding Karl's psyche to an even greater extent (new training vs. re-training) as he delves deeper into submission. The major drawback to this is that I know there are parts of Karl's personality that you enjoy that may disappear as a result of this.
Unfortunately, I think the only way to bring back the "new car smell" is to go into unexplored territory, requiring a change from the present situation and the introduction of something/someone that is truly new.
fur- Good to hear from you, my friend. Only you could come up with "new car smell" to describe this situation:) Yes, the slave weekend from times past was indeed intense, and some of its ramifications are still in play. However, that very intensity takes quite a bit of effort on both of our parts and I'm not sure it would work on a regular basis. I do see your point about raising the levels, however, and I'll give it some thought, though I'm not sure that it will scratch the itch. Thank you for your suggestion, as always.
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